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I Let Go Of Faith Ten years Ago Today

by cofty in

after more than 30 years as a jw and 9 as a born-again christian i finally let go of faith 10 years ago today.... it was on boxing day 2004 that news of the asian tsunami put the final nail in the coffin of my relationship with god.

since that time i have listened attentively to every possible argument in defense of faith; there has never been a single moment that i have felt any discomfort with my decision.. life without god has been liberating.

no longer do i have to defend the indefensible.

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The Asian Tsunami cost me five dear friends life. What i learnt from it was that in spite of everything God could live on inside the humun heart. It is only by my accepting the faith of those who lost our shared friends, that we can come together and share a table this boxing day.

I am amased that event was 10 years ago,and i think i would be an egghead to tell people i do share their faith, that the God they worship is only a fairy tale, a bedtime story. If there were a God he would have intervened.

My athiest logic is not a belivers logic.

Happy New Year Cofty & and your many threads helped me question my faith.

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If you find me in a gloom.

by new hope and happiness in

jw
friends

if you find me in a gloom, or catch me in a dream.

here inside my lonely room there is no in between.. those are opening lyrics of a song " whispering pine" by the band.. such a beautiful sang with an element of pain by richard manuel.. anyway " if you find me in a gloom, or catch me on a dream" what is a " gloom" ?

it ia a new tragity that awaits round the corner.. how about a thread of great songs with words in the lyrics that have meaning we dont understand?.

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Please ignore this thread as i double posred it.

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If you find me in a gloom.

by new hope and happiness in

jw
friends

if you find me in a gloom, or catch me in a dream.

here inside my lonely room there is no in between.. those are opening lyrics of a song " whispering pine" by the band.. such a beautiful sang with an element of pain by richard manuel.. anyway " if you find me in a gloom, or catch me on a dream" what is a " gloom" ?

it ia a new tragity that awaits round the corner.. how about a thread of great songs with words in the lyrics that have meaning we dont understand?.

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If you find me in a gloom.

by new hope and happiness in

jw
friends

if you find me in a gloom, or catch me in a dream.

here inside my lonely room there is no in between.. those are opening lyrics of a song " whispering pine" by the band.. such a beautiful sang with an element of pain by richard manuel.. anyway " if you find me in a gloom, or catch me on a dream" what is a " gloom" ?

it ia a new tragity that awaits round the corner.. how about a thread of great songs with words in the lyrics that have meaning we dont understand?.

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if you find me in a gloom, or catch me in a dream

Here inside my lonely room there is no in between.

Those are opening lyrics of a song " whispering pine" by the Band.

Such a beautiful sang with an element of pain by Richard Manuel.

Anyway " if you find me in a GLOOM, or catch me on a dream" what is a " GLOOM" ? it ia a new tragity that awaits round the corner.

How about a thread of great songs with words in the lyrics that have meaning we dont understand?

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If you find me in a gloom.

by new hope and happiness in

jw
friends

if you find me in a gloom, or catch me in a dream.

here inside my lonely room there is no in between.. those are opening lyrics of a song " whispering pine" by the band.. such a beautiful sang with an element of pain by richard manuel.. anyway " if you find me in a gloom, or catch me on a dream" what is a " gloom" ?

it ia a new tragity that awaits round the corner.. how about a thread of great songs with words in the lyrics that have meaning we dont understand?.

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if you find me in a gloom, or catch me in a dream

Here inside my lonely room there is no in between.

Those are opening lyrics of a song " whispering pine" by the Band.

Such a beautiful sang with an element of pain by Richard Manuel.

Anyway " if you find me in a GLOOM, or catch me on a dream" what is a " GLOOM" ? it ia a new tragity that awaits round the corner.

How about a thread of great songs with words in the lyrics that have meaning we dont understand?

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UBER-WITNESS: THE ELITE FORCE . . . a study in how a fanatic is created

by Terry in

at what point in the average person's life does he/she reach a crossroads between purposeful pursuit of a life's goal and mad fanaticism?.

we have all known these automatons; these uber-witnesses.. we might even have been one ourselves!.

the uber-witness can make an excuse for any watchtower mistake at the crack of a whip!.

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Well Terry to answer your question " Do you know when you made the MOMENT when you made the wrong turn.?"

Well Terry that " moment" was today.

But i made the mistake of shopping clothes at a charity shop. I am now dressed in fawn troucers and a pola neck jumper. ( Buying my Armani Jeans and trendy clothes cost less in the sales)

Anyway i also bought a few electrical appliances which will probably burn the house down, and if i had a record player i could put a few L.P.s on. ( Abba, Yes. Nolan Sisters) uggggg what was i thinking? At least i didn't buy " The Waltons" D.V.D.

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A Jehovers Witness until the day i die.!!

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i have met many who i call " jehovers witnesses untill the day they die".

and i think one of the main reasons is jehovers witnesses do not wan't to change their living conditions.. i have reasoned that my motivation to awaken was i wanted to change my living conditions.. this motivation made me an enemy to watchtower indoctrination, which i now saw was blocking my energies for achiving my personal goals.

the " watchtower club" had now become my enemy.. i was now able to question the reationalism of watchtower doctrines, and i saw free discussion was not toletated.

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Well i started this thread " A jehovers witness untill the day i die"

How ironic, today i was taking advantage of shopping in charity shops, and checking for imperfections on a Sodastream machine, i noticed from the box it was once a gift given to an elder who died of old age a few months ago.

I wonder how many of his once treasured possessions are here?

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THE TRUTH IS AN ILLUSION and here is the process which proves it.

by Terry in

a wall is a wall, right?

question: what if each day a brick was removed and replaced with wood?.

the watchtower religion pretends to be like a brick wall built of truth.. however, each brick of truth been replaced with wood (changing opinion.).

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The truth is not an illusion, and it is not a walll, it's two games.

Watcthtower Corporation play " Table Tennis"

The faithful members play "Ping Pong"

Game one to serve :

- Watchtower corporation: " a gentle serve"

Faithful member:-" A gentle return"

Watchtowet corporatipn " A little PING PONG"

Faithful Members " Gentle replys"

Now the Watchtower Corporation, do a few lobbing serves and win a few points, but they don't smash every return, they enable the " faithful members" to think they are still in the game....

And who ever heard of anybody getting seriously hurt playing PING PONG?

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The Faithful Slave - An Obvious Question I Haven't Heard Asked

by berrygerry in

since the big 7 have appropriated this "blessed" title for themselves, and disavowed the existence of this slave prior to 1919, an obvious question comes up.. was it not the apostate maria russell that proffered that ctr was "the slave," and was the coiner of the term "the faithful slave"?.

if the slave did not come into existence until 1919, then how was it possible that prior to 1919 that anyone knew that it existed, or would have been able to foretell that it would come into existence?.

was maria a prophetic apostate?.

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berrygerry:- i can answer your question.

Maria was NOT a prophetic apostate. ( maybe pathetic but not prophetic) anyway prior to " [1919) Maria did see the door open, and it was much easier for her to do so. But whilst (1919) was no where in sight, it was a danger passing.

In 1916 the door was opened in Maria' heart and she became distressed, but after a brief splash down in the shower to call her cheeks, Maria hirried back to the lounge and all the events resounding around 1919 fell in to place...of course it is not for you to question these matters.

The truth i have found is usually found in the dirty linen cupboard, which is not a detectable place in any home. ( Oh i stand corrected the dirty lien of the W.T is in every word they wrote)

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The Hum Drum Lives of Jehovah's Witnesses

by minimus in

jw
friends

boring and useless, a waste of valuable time..

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Many J.Ws i'am sure find life anything but " Hum Drum". Only upon leaving do many find life " Hum Drum"

Kingdom Hall i am missing you.

Wishing to be attending you,

Only i can't

Yes for many sitting at a bus-stop with watchtower briefcase on knees, waiting for bus 132 to take them too the K,H is anything but " Hum Drum" .

And as we approah winter here in Sweden, drinking my Mcdonalds cofeee i watched three witnesses await that bus to the kingdom hall, and thought here but for the " grace of commen sence" would be me.